John Waters admits he didnโt know much about film editing when he started making movies in the 1960s.
He says he was surprised when he got word that the American Cinema Editors (ACE) society wanted to give him one of its top prizes, the ACE Golden Eddie Filmmaker of the Year Award, at its 2024 ceremony in Los Angeles.
โIt is ironic Iโm getting an Eddie Award since when I made my first film, ‘Hag in a Black Leather Jacket’ in 1964, I didnโt even know what editing was,โ he said at the awards ceremony on March 3. โI was 17 years old, my grandmother had given me an eight-millimeter movie camera, and I just filmed all the shots in order of the plot and Presto! โ the movie was done. No editing necessary. Very Dogma โ95. Very Lars von Queer.โ
Waters noted that one of his best known scenes, the one at the end of โPink Flamingosโ where Divine devours dog droppings, is famous for its editing โ it was intentionally not edited after filming so no one could say it was faked.
โThere is not one cut in the final scene where Divine eats dog feces,โ he noted. โStraight from the dogโs anus to the talentโs lips in the master. Thatโs what I call a great editing decision even if I have to say so myself.โ
Hundreds of Hollywoodโs best and brightest gathered on the UCLA campus for the 74th annual ACE Eddie Awards ceremony, held to recognize achievement in both television and motion pictures.

The Golden Eddie Award, short for โediting,โ recognizes an artist who exemplifies โdistinguished achievement in the art and business of film.โ Itโs the latest of several industry honors that Waters has received over the past year, including a star the Hollywood Walk of Fame and a career retrospective at the Academy Museum of Motion Pictures in Los Angeles.
Past Golden Eddie recipients include Christopher Nolan; Martin Scorsese; Spike Lee; Quentin Tarantino; Guillermo Del Toro; Gina Prince-Bythewood; J. J. Abrams; Norman Jewison; Robert Zemeckis; and George Lucas.
Waters, 77, has written and directed 16 films, from so-called โcelluloid atrocitiesโ such as โFemale Troubleโ and โMultiple Maniacsโ to more mainstream fare such as โHairsprayโ and โSerial Mom.โ His last movie was โA Dirty Shameโ in 2004. Heโs currently working with Village Roadshow Pictures and is aiming to start production on a film adaptation of his 2022 novel, โLiarmouth: A Feel-Bad Romance.โ
Pink flamingos and feather boas
Watersโ movies were used to set a campy tone for the ACE event, which included a red carpet area where celebrities were photographed when they arrived; a tented lawn for brunch; the two-and-a-half hour awards ceremony inside historic Royce Hall; and an after-party outside the auditorium.

For this yearโs event, the grounds at UCLA were festooned with flocks of plastic Pink Flamingo lawn ornaments just like the ones used in Watersโ 1972 comedy. The dress code was formal, and guests at the after-party were given pink and blue feather boas to wear.
Presenters during the ceremony included Mink Stole and Ricki Lake, stars from Waters movies. The host was Nina West, the stage name of Andrew Robert Levitt, a drag performer and โRuPaulโs Drag Raceโ alum who played Edna Turnblad in the 2021-2022 national touring production of Hairspray. West finished in sixth place and was voted Miss Congeniality on the eleventh season of โRuPaulโs Drag Race.โ West also paid homage to Waters several years ago in a music video entitled โCha Cha Heels,โ a mashup of scenes inspired by โFemale Trouble,โ โSerial Momโ and โHairspray.โ
According to ACE spokesperson Lea Yardum, “this was not only the first time that a Drag Queen performer hosted the ACE Eddies — it’s actually the first time that we know of any awards show being hosted by a Drag Queen. Nina West was chosen because of her incredible talent and creativity, and going in that direction was definitely inspired by Mr. Waters being ACE’s special honoree. The spirit of fun and fancy was contagious.”
No Odorama
Waters was introduced by director Kevin Smith, who said the Baltimore filmmaker was a big influence on his own work. The director of โClerks,โ โMallrats,โ โChasing Amyโ and โDogma,โ among other films, Smith told a story about growing up in New Jersey and wanting to see โPolyesterโ when he was 10 years old because it featured Odorama cards that movie-goers were supposed to scratch and sniff during the movie. It also had an R rating — with parental guidance about sex, nudity, violence, gore and profanity โ plus romantic scenes between Divine and Tab Hunter. Smith said he didnโt know anything about the plot or what Polyester meant, โeven though it described my momโs entire wardrobe at the time.โ

Smith said his father, not realizing the movie wasnโt intended for children, agreed to take the whole family โ mother, father and three kids โ to see it at a local drive-in. From that decision alone, Smith said, โPolyester was making us a tighter-knit family.โ But when they got to the drive-in, the theater didnโt have the promised Odorama cards. โWhat kind of stupid shit is that?โ his father asked the ticket guy, irate. โWhat kind of stupid shit takes three kids to this movie?โ the ticket guy shot back.
Smith said he learned a lesson from that experience: He realized that he wanted to grow up and make the kind of โf****d-upโ movies that kids arenโt supposed to see, just like John Waters. And he told the audience he has pretty much done so โ making New Jersey his version of Baltimore, even casting two actors that Waters worked with, Johnny Depp and Traci Lords. He described Waters as โa true American icon, a true American original.โ
Sharing ‘truths’
In his acceptance speech, Waters shared some of the โtruthsโ that he’s learned about film editing over the years:
โIf you ever think you should cut a scene out of your movie, you should.โ
โNo comedy should be longer than 90 minutes.โ
โThere is no such thing as a good long joke.โ
โIf the audience hears a narrator in a movie, they know it tested badly. The editor had to cut out plot points that didnโt make any sense without explanation. Use music lyrics instead of the human voice. Itโs sneakier, works better and the audience is none the wiser.โ
โAs Cecil B. Demented says, technique is nothing more than failed style.โ
Ironclad advice
Waters also offered some โiconclad friendly editing adviceโ for directors:
No smoking: โNever have a character smoke cigarettes in your film, even in a period piece,โ he told the audience. โNot for health concerns, but for continuity issues. You want to snip out a boring bit of dialogue? You canโt cut back to the first smoking character because the cigarette is a different length.โ
No watches: โNever show anybody looking at their watch in a movie. It shows it down and the audience will do the same thing.โ
Pay attention to the music: โMake sure the end-credit crawl music is lively, funny or shocking. Thatโs when audience word-of-mouth begins, when theyโre walking up the aisle to leave.โ
Censorship and other editing pressures
Discussing his work, Waters observed that the editing process can be influenced by a variety of factors besides artistic or aesthetic reasons, including some that editors canโt foresee at the start of production.
Making โFemale Troubleโ in Baltimore, he said, he was confronted with โa different kind of editor: the Maryland censor board lady, who handed me a pair of scissors and made me cut out, right in front of her, โone cunnilingus scene,โ as the receipt she gave me back reads. Iโm not kidding. You can see that receipt displayed in the Academy Museum show thatโs still up right here in Los Angeles.โ
Waters has spoken about how he had to make a sanitized version of โSerial Momโ that could be shown on airplanes โ even though heโs not sure โSerial Momโ was ever shown on an airplane. One of the edits is that he had to replace a threatening note that Kathleen Turnerโs Beverly Sutphin sends to a neighbor in the original cut, โIโll get you pussy face,โ with a supposedly more palatable threat in the edited version, โIโll get you prune face.โ
For โA Dirty Shame,โ he said, โwe had to fight the MPAA [Motion Picture Association of America, now just the Motion Picture Association] and make a family-friendly version of โA Dirty Shameโ that wasnโt rated NC-17, for the chain video stores. Try cutting a film about sex addicts to be suitable for a childrenโs birthday party. Thatโs a task no editor should ever have to tackle.โ
Censorship wasnโt the issue with โPecker,โ which received an R rating. In that case, Waters said, the movie had to be edited because it was eight minutes shorter than the length wanted by the production studio, New Line Cinema. โWe had to sneak the cast and crew back in town and film extra footage to add to the front-credit bus ride to make it the 90-minute running time that New Line demanded,โ he said. โThey never found out. Until today. Sorry [New Line founder] Bob Shaye.โ
Disco ball
A prelude to the Oscars, the Eddies ceremony is one of the film industryโs major annual events, considered a barometer for the Academy Awardsโ Best Picture and Best Editing categories. Royce Hall, a 1929 theater that seats more than 1,800, was nearly full for the event.
Waters had a reserved table for the brunch and after-party, complete with a miniature disco ball as part of the centerpiece. He was joined by Mink Stole [Nancy Paine Stoll] and her husband; Janice Hampton, the film editor on many of his movies; Academy Museum curators Jenny He and Dara Jaffe; and others.
Unlike some awards programs, the Eddies ceremony doesnโt cut speakers off after a certain time. One of the daysโ longest speeches came from award presenter George Lucas, who took nearly half an hour to introduce Walter Murch, one of two honorees for โCareer Achievement.โ
Other Eddie awards went to film editors behind โOppenheimer,โ โThe Holdovers,โ โTaylor Swift: The Eras Tour,โ โSpider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse,โ โThe Bear,โ โBeef,โ โHow I Met Your Father,โ and โThe Last of Us,โ for its โLong, Long Timeโ episode. Timothy Good, the editor recognized for โThe Last of Usโ episode, like Smith pointed to Waters as a big influence on his career.
Respecting the theme of the event, Waters wasnโt as long-winded as Lucas. At the end of his acceptance speech, Waters followed his own advice and edited himself down to six final words โ โThank you for this wonderful award!โ In an earlier email message about receiving yet another honor, he summed up his reaction in two words: โAstonishment continues.โ
